Here's what I've figured out as far as high level strategy:
Working backwards, you want to get a boss to max level (3b) as soon as possible. To pay for that, you want to get a generator to max level (200m), with the highest value. To max the value, you surround it with 4 task masters, but you need to max the level of the task masters (since they will contribute their own value). The best way to raise the value of the task masters is with leaders.
Here's a more detailed walkthrough of what I do:
Optimal start is generator, upgrade, generator, upgrade, leech. I'm not sure what is optimal after that, but I generally play something like the following to get started. I place a "base" generator in the top left and build off that. Almost all of these other tiles will be replaced though.
After about $40/cycle, I will place one or two catalysts around the "base" generator in the top left. Then it's a slow process to place leeches and upgrade to max level, and place two more catalysts.
I build out the rest of the board, placing max level leeches and adding 5 leaders. 5 seems to be a good balance for cost. Once the board is filled it looks like
The next step is replace the catalysts with taskmasters.
After all four task masters are in place, then I upgrade the leaders to max level (5m).
Then wait, wait, wait for 200m to max the generator (this is two or three minutes of doing nothing). "good" numbers seem to be, you want to have $200m around $1.92m/cycle, and that will jump your income to 8-10m/cycle.
Then place a single boss (20m) (replace any leech), upgrade (50m), and wait, wait, wait for 3b for the final boss upgrade. The game is essentially over at this point, but you have to wait for the boss to double enough. You can speed it up by a minute or two by placing as many other bosses as you can and upgrading to max level (this is what enabled me to finally get sub 24). This is because they normally tick once/5, so if you can stack multiple it will grow much faster.
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Things I'm not sure about:
Generators should generally be upgraded as soon as possible, probably.
The end game seems to only require one generator, due to the growth from the task masters, but it seems like you should probably start with more than one generator, to have multiple low level leeches. I generally have the "base" generator in the top left, but I have a secondary generator in the lower right with catalysts that get upgraded to leaders. This seems like it has room for improvement ....
A leader adds +1 to every square on the board, which is +25 by itself. Each max leach will add +25 to that. This is base every 5 ticks, so I'm not sure if it's better to upgrade these first, or if it's better to place task masters first.
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Overall this is a fun game, I've probably spent around 20 hours playing, would recommend.
I can vouch for this strategy. I didn't follow it precisely, but reducing my focus on generators, leaning in heavily on leeches & leaders, and maxing out a boss as early as possible got my time down to 26 minutes from the low 30s in a single run.
yeah, the bosses were leaders (except the middle) and right above and below were taskmaster but turned the other direction until I got the boss to the max level so it could be buffed, then I turned the task masters around and stared switching the leaders out with bosses which I could max out right away cause I was making so much money. if that makes sense lol.
First run 38 something minutes in background, second was 26:02 and this is 3rd attempt. Think it was pretty minmaxed this time, not perfect but thats enough for me. Nice game:)
Great game, but I did discover that there's an issue with either how the bosses are described, or how they boost generators. If you put a boss next to a generator, it doesn't buff it right, it only buffs it +1, not +itself
a lovely little distraction =] ~40ish minutes for me.
if this ever gets updated, i'd love to be able to see the rate of increase [of increase... ect] - the effects of the final upgrade would probably be a sight to behold.
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ummm.. this is normal?
hol'up how
how the hell my time was like 34:25 and you 1:37
33:47 on first try ez
32.07
29:03
44 mins, going to try to do a speedrun
simple yet op way to get A LOT
you say that... and this was my build. literally 2 minutes ago i only had like a few billion.
I dont like going too complex, I prefer simple lol
Here's what I've figured out as far as high level strategy:
Working backwards, you want to get a boss to max level (3b) as soon as possible. To pay for that, you want to get a generator to max level (200m), with the highest value. To max the value, you surround it with 4 task masters, but you need to max the level of the task masters (since they will contribute their own value). The best way to raise the value of the task masters is with leaders.
Here's a more detailed walkthrough of what I do:
Optimal start is generator, upgrade, generator, upgrade, leech. I'm not sure what is optimal after that, but I generally play something like the following to get started. I place a "base" generator in the top left and build off that. Almost all of these other tiles will be replaced though.
After about $40/cycle, I will place one or two catalysts around the "base" generator in the top left. Then it's a slow process to place leeches and upgrade to max level, and place two more catalysts.
I build out the rest of the board, placing max level leeches and adding 5 leaders. 5 seems to be a good balance for cost. Once the board is filled it looks like
The next step is replace the catalysts with taskmasters.
After all four task masters are in place, then I upgrade the leaders to max level (5m).
Then wait, wait, wait for 200m to max the generator (this is two or three minutes of doing nothing). "good" numbers seem to be, you want to have $200m around $1.92m/cycle, and that will jump your income to 8-10m/cycle.
Then place a single boss (20m) (replace any leech), upgrade (50m), and wait, wait, wait for 3b for the final boss upgrade. The game is essentially over at this point, but you have to wait for the boss to double enough. You can speed it up by a minute or two by placing as many other bosses as you can and upgrading to max level (this is what enabled me to finally get sub 24). This is because they normally tick once/5, so if you can stack multiple it will grow much faster.
-----
Things I'm not sure about:
Generators should generally be upgraded as soon as possible, probably.
The end game seems to only require one generator, due to the growth from the task masters, but it seems like you should probably start with more than one generator, to have multiple low level leeches. I generally have the "base" generator in the top left, but I have a secondary generator in the lower right with catalysts that get upgraded to leaders. This seems like it has room for improvement ....
A leader adds +1 to every square on the board, which is +25 by itself. Each max leach will add +25 to that. This is base every 5 ticks, so I'm not sure if it's better to upgrade these first, or if it's better to place task masters first.
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Overall this is a fun game, I've probably spent around 20 hours playing, would recommend.
I can vouch for this strategy. I didn't follow it precisely, but reducing my focus on generators, leaning in heavily on leeches & leaders, and maxing out a boss as early as possible got my time down to 26 minutes from the low 30s in a single run.
I can't catalyst the catalyst to catalyst faster and bigger :'(
Very nice game! A couple of possible improvements, from simple-ish to complex. ;)
Even as-is, the game is certainly worth playing.
it could be stored in cycles but converted afterward
maybe something like: You won in 30:00 (1800 cycles)
Really small but super cool game, loved it!
My best time was 24 minutes, but I'm sure you can probably push that down to 20 if you tried hard enough
most OP build
the teal was pink before I switched them
Don't the taskmasters and bosses not buff each other?
yeah, the bosses were leaders (except the middle) and right above and below were taskmaster but turned the other direction until I got the boss to the max level so it could be buffed, then I turned the task masters around and stared switching the leaders out with bosses which I could max out right away cause I was making so much money. if that makes sense lol.
Ahh, I see.
Thank you for this great idle game!
If you want, you can check my full game playthrough here:
35 minutes first time
First try got sub 30 (not by much though)
I dunno why the game crashed on ending ~25min
nice
WOO first time I made it through without my game being interrupted
Should add something like a permanent upgrade each time u win
34:06 win
First run (A LOT total %) 34:5
34:08 Nice game
lmao
34:10. Nice. (first att)
27:01 ayyy
first try wasd 39:1
my first try 33 minutes
1st time = 48.30; 2nd time = 37.07
nice.
#1 on the slow run board
with 50:16
Nope I got 100:58 lol
I left it on overnight
#2 then
Well...I did it
1st attempt: 48 (Don't ask, obsessed with symmetry)
2nd attempt: 32
First run 38 something minutes in background, second was 26:02 and this is 3rd attempt. Think it was pretty minmaxed this time, not perfect but thats enough for me. Nice game:)
Great game, but I did discover that there's an issue with either how the bosses are described, or how they boost generators. If you put a boss next to a generator, it doesn't buff it right, it only buffs it +1, not +itself
maybe it means it's permanently +itself, not +itself every turn
so it's +1ing it when the boss is going +1
if that's the case it's not a great machine though lol
Fun game, just the right length, good job
a lovely little distraction =] ~40ish minutes for me.
if this ever gets updated, i'd love to be able to see the rate of increase [of increase... ect] - the effects of the final upgrade would probably be a sight to behold.
yeah, beat the game in only 252:08 minutes :-)
'only'
wow
I... wow
Nice game, played a couple times and got under 30 minutes
Is this game finished?
Wow! What is your strategy? That's really impressive. 27 is the best I got so far. Need to find the weakness.
Nice job. I haven't been able to break 27 minutes.
I don't think I can and still treat this as an "idle" game.
the leeches are useless
not from my experience thjey arent
what do they do (note that i am also smolboi314)
well i found out
29:19!
1st time, 38 min ;) Nice game !